FACT CHECK: Why Can They Keep Their Health Care After Age 65

Comment By Bob L.
Oct.31st 2013

DemocratsIt might sound stupid, but why should they be able to keep their Health care when they retire, they should lost it like most Americans do when they retire.

Once Government Employees turn 65 they should lose their Government Health care, if they want to have their remaining Twenty Percent (20%) of Medicare paid for, they can buy a medigap plan just like every Retired American Citizen who can afford it, and not get any more health care unless they pay for it out of their own pocket, just like the rest of us.

And once they retire they should not get any more Pay Increases or Cost Of Living Increases, and not get Social Security, because what they get in their retirement, is more than what a Senior gets living on a set income gets a month.

I am turning Seventy and if I have to pay for my Insurance, I could not afford to pay for a Medigap plan, because it would take what is left in what I get each Month, but yet what they get each month when they retire is what I get to live on just like most retired Americans, so why can’t they pay for their own Insurance when they retire instead of making the Taxpayers pay for their Retirement and Medical, GREED is why, same reason that they get pay packages and wages that most American workers will never see. 

If I had to get a medigap plan to pay for the Twenty Percent (20%), I could not do it, so I just keep hoping that nothing big comes up, because that Twenty Percent (20%), I take that out of my pocket on time payments, I would have to find a new address, and it would more than likely be, I 5 Bridge Puyallup River, box number 20, or any vacant lot out-of-the-way, and I would not be alone, there would be Thousands doing the same thing, and the Government would do nothing but say, move on, find another place to live, we don’t want you here, just like they do now with the Homeless that they say does not exist, and Who is to blame for most of the home less, GOVERNMENT, Environmentalist, and these Special Interest Groups who want every thing that cost a lot of money (that taxes pay for).

I hope I am wrong, but it looks like there is going to be a lot more home less if people don’t put a stop to this Government power play to be the ruler of the world, like Hitler who was just one, there are a lot more out there chomping at the bit to take over the World and its people.


FACT CHECK: A Sebelius dodge at hearing

Associated Press


WASHINGTON (AP) — Here’s what some Republicans want to know: If Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius thinks the new health insurance marketplace is going to be so great, why doesn’t she get her own coverage from it?

As a Medicare beneficiary, she can’t.

But her response to Republicans who pressed her Wednesday to sign up under a health insurance exchange was problematic. She said that because she’s part of the federal employee health plan, she’s not eligible to switch to the exchanges.

In fact, Americans who have workplace health insurance, as most with coverage do, can drop it in favor of individual policies offered by the exchanges. But doing so would not make financial sense for most.

A look at the back and forth at a House hearing, with underlying facts:

REP. CORY GARDNER, R-Colo.: “You’re in charge of this law, correct? Why aren’t you in the exchange?”

SEBELIUS: “Because I’m part of the federal employee health benefit plan. … I’m not eligible for the exchange.”

GARDNER: “You can decide to drop your coverage of your employer. You have the choice to decide not to choose …”

SEBELIUS: “Not true, sir.”

GARDNER: “I would encourage you to be just like the American people and enter the exchange and agree to find a way …”

SEBELIUS: “It’s illegal.”

GOP Rep. Billy Long of Missouri also tried.

LONG: “You’re architect of the whole program and you won’t go into it with the rest of the American public.”

SEBELIUS: “I did not say that, sir. I think it’s illegal for me to.”

LONG: “If you can, will you?”

SEBELIUS: “I will take a look at it.”


It would be financially nonsensical for most with federal employee health insurance to step away from it in favor of an individual policy in the exchange. Doing so would mean losing the employer contribution to the health plan. It’s also unlikely they would qualify for subsidized coverage available to many who seek insurance in the exchanges because they don’t have access to workplace coverage.

But Sebelius’ point that she can’t do it because her federal employee insurance disqualifies her doesn’t hold up.

What does block her from enrolling in an exchange is her status as a Medicare beneficiary, which she did not mention at the hearing. Plans offered by the exchanges cannot be sold to people on Medicare, and her department said in a statement that “the secretary is a Medicare enrollee.”

Gardner told the hearing his family chose to have a private policy in Colorado “so we could be in the same boat as every one of my constituents.”

But individual private policies are not the norm. Employer-based group coverage is. In that sense, Sebelius is already “just like the American people,” as Gardner implored her to become.

EDITOR’S NOTE _ An occasional look at claims by public figures that take shortcuts with the facts or don’t tell the full story

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